jsmith17

J. Smith 17-note well-temperament

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Properties

Notes17
Period1200.0 ¢
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Thread2 scales
Tone (¢) Step (¢)
71 71
137 66
208 71
288 80
345 57
416 71
496 80
567 71
633 66
704 71
784 80
841 57
912 71
992 80
1049 57
1120 71
1200 80

Similar scales

FileNotesRotationMax diff (¢)
705-17 17 0 5.0
neogw17a 17 0 6.7
xen18-schulter-pure-11-14-17 17 0 7.1
secor17w 17 2 7.2
17wt 17 2 7.2
secor 17 2 7.2
xen18-secor-17-wt 17 2 7.2
leapday17 17 0 7.3
parapyth17trans 17 9 9.1
17-tET 17 1 9.8

Parent scales

FileNotesMax diff (¢)
perdeler23-symmetrical 23 6.0
xen18-schulter-pure-11-14-24 24 7.1
peprmintA 24 8.5
met24-ji3_A 24 11.6
17x2_55 34 7.5
peprmint_key1 24 12.8
xen18-erlich-srutal-46 46 5.1
xen18-secor-17-plus-5-wt 22 16.1
edo-34 34 9.8
akea46_13 46 5.4

Child scales

FileNotesMax diff (¢)
pep_dudon_ibina_E 7 1.4
44_39-diat1 7 2.0
msdiat7 7 2.0
xen15-chalmers-triadic-reversed-diamond-13-11 7 2.0
pelog_mal 5 2.0
xen18-secor-neutral-third-mos-1-just 7 2.4
xen15-chalmers-triadic-diamond-13-11 7 3.3
xen15-chalmers-triadic-diamond-14-11 7 3.6
xen09-chalmers-tritriadic-12-13-18 7 4.1
xen09-chalmers-tritriadic-22-26-33 7 4.1
Mailing list post 
From: Gene Ward Smith (2006-12-17)
Subject: To Carl...[Re: Scala archives]

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "J.Smith" <jsmith9624@...> wrote:

> Rounded to the nearest cent:

And with this information, we can see it is closely related to Margo's
neo-Gothic 17-note scale, and Leapday[17], the 17-note MOS of leapday
temperament.

Here's your scale in Scala format:

! jsmith17.scl
J. Smith 17-note well-temperament
17
!
71.
137.
208.
288.
345.
416.
496.
567.
633.
704.
784.
841.
912.
992.
1049.
1120.
1200.

Here's Leapday[17] in 46-edo tuning:

! leapday17.scl
Leapday[17] in 46-et tuning
17
!
78.260870
130.434783
208.695652
286.956522
339.130435
417.391304
495.652174
573.913043
626.086957
704.347826
782.608696
834.782609
913.043478
991.304348
1043.478261
1121.739130
1200.000000

If you look at the respective cicles of fifths, you can see that your
scale is a sort of modified leapday with 704 cent fifth generator
(which is to say, leapday in 75-et, not 46-et.) Possibly I should have
given that tuning instead.
Full thread (2 messages) 
From: J.Smith (2006-12-17)
Subject: To Carl...[Re: Scala archives]

Carl, you wrote:



"1. Send it to Manuel.

2. I don't think the quality of scales in the archive is very high,
so I doubt your scale could damage it.

3. I respect your music, so your scales are almost certainly (and
if not, by definition) of good quality.

4. It would be good to have a more open scale repository, to which
anyone can contribute. And where users can vote on the interestingness
of the scales. Hell, maybe even post mp3 files to compete for
'best piece in this scale' status.

-Carl"



Thanks for the input, Carl. Just so everyone's clear on this, my posted
reply to Gene was written with tongue firmly in cheek (sorry Gene). I
suppose I should preface such things with an appropriate warning ( ie,
"The following message contains wry humor and should be taken with
remedial grains of salt" or similar).

Honestly, my question about the archives was more out of curiosity and
less because I thought I had some unique tuning as such. I've been
toying with a 17-tone irregular temperament since the September 17 TPP
concert. I wanted something tweaked away from EDO and bit more toward
just ratios. But after George Secor brought up his "well-tempered" 17, I
sort of put mine on a shelf -- though I'm looking at it again for a new
work.

Rounded to the nearest cent:

!

71

137

208

288

345

416

496

567

633

704

784

841

912

992

1049

1120

1200



Best,

jls
From: Gene Ward Smith (2006-12-17)
Subject: To Carl...[Re: Scala archives]

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "J.Smith" <jsmith9624@...> wrote:

> Rounded to the nearest cent:

And with this information, we can see it is closely related to Margo's
neo-Gothic 17-note scale, and Leapday[17], the 17-note MOS of leapday
temperament.

Here's your scale in Scala format:

! jsmith17.scl
J. Smith 17-note well-temperament
17
!
71.
137.
208.
288.
345.
416.
496.
567.
633.
704.
784.
841.
912.
992.
1049.
1120.
1200.

Here's Leapday[17] in 46-edo tuning:

! leapday17.scl
Leapday[17] in 46-et tuning
17
!
78.260870
130.434783
208.695652
286.956522
339.130435
417.391304
495.652174
573.913043
626.086957
704.347826
782.608696
834.782609
913.043478
991.304348
1043.478261
1121.739130
1200.000000

If you look at the respective cicles of fifths, you can see that your
scale is a sort of modified leapday with 704 cent fifth generator
(which is to say, leapday in 75-et, not 46-et.) Possibly I should have
given that tuning instead.

Raw file

! jsmith17.scl
J. Smith 17-note well-temperament
17
!
71.
137.
208.
288.
345.
416.
496.
567.
633.
704.
784.
841.
912.
992.
1049.
1120.
1200.
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