Topic: A subminor/supermajor flavored scale
2 scales
| File | Description | Notes | Period (ยข) | Limit |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| breed14 | a 49/48 and 81/80 Fokker block in breed plane | 14 | 1200.0 | 7 |
| breed14_tuning_58799_58809 | a 49/48 and 81/80 Fokker block in breed plane | 14 | 1200.0 | 7 |
Thread (5 messages)
From: Gene Ward Smith (2005-05-28) Subject: A subminor/supermajor flavored scale I got this from a Fokker block for 49/48~50/49 and 81/80, assuming 2401/2400 equivalence. It can be described as the notes (49/40)^i, -3<=i<=3, (49/40)^i*(10/7), -3<=i<=-1, and (49/40)^i*(7/5), 0<=i<=3, reduced by octaves and 2401/2400. While far from free of 5s, it has no major thirds and only one minor third, but seven each of subminor and supermajor thirds, five each of which go with triads. It is a well-behaved scale by the usual measures (CS, epimorphic, strictly proper), but nonetheless gets you well away from 5-limit tunings. In case anyone wants to try it, here it is: ! breed14.scl a 49/48 and 81/80 Fokker block in breed plane 14 ! 21/20 49/45 7/6 49/40 9/7 4/3 7/5 3/2 14/9 49/30 12/7 90/49 40/21 2
From: Mikal De Valia (2005-05-28) Subject: RE: [tuning] A subminor/supermajor flavored scale what is this string theory? i am just kidding. i am a newcomer to this ghroup and to theaory being an ear player of thirteen+ years. but hey -- seeing your heading made me pleased -- as i am working on a 'superlocrian' -- i am sure there already is one and i am patching itt together out of intuition, snatches of conversation from the local'big kids' and well thanks. string theory. gimme a rimshot huh? chiptruth@excite.com --- On Sat 05/28, Gene Ward Smith < gwsmith@svpal.org > wrote: From: Gene Ward Smith [mailto: gwsmith@svpal.org] To: tuning@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 06:58:29 -0000 Subject: [tuning] A subminor/supermajor flavored scale I got this from a Fokker block for 49/48~50/49 and 81/80, assuming 2401/2400 equivalence. It can be described as the notes (49/40)^i, -3<=i<=3, (49/40)^i*(10/7), -3<=i<=-1, and (49/40)^i*(7/5), 0<=i<=3, reduced by octaves and 2401/2400. While far from free of 5s, it has no major thirds and only one minor third, but seven each of subminor and supermajor thirds, five each of which go with triads. It is a well-behaved scale by the usual measures (CS, epimorphic, strictly proper), but nonetheless gets you well away from 5-limit tunings. In case anyone wants to try it, here it is: ! breed14.scl a 49/48 and 81/80 Fokker block in breed plane 14 ! 21/20 49/45 7/6 49/40 9/7 4/3 7/5 3/2 14/9 49/30 12/7 90/49 40/21 2 You can configure your subscription by sending an empty email to one of these addresses (from the address at which you receive the list): tuning-subscribe@yahoogroups.com - join the tuning group. tuning-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com - leave the group. tuning-nomail@yahoogroups.com - turn off mail from the group. tuning-digest@yahoogroups.com - set group to send daily digests. tuning-normal@yahoogroups.com - set group to send individual emails. tuning-help@yahoogroups.com - receive general help information. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: tuning-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
From: Gene Ward Smith (2005-05-28) Subject: Re: A subminor/supermajor flavored scale --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Mikal De Valia" wrote: > what is this string theory? I dunno. I'm avoid the string theory, for fear it will mutuate into superstring theory. I did wonder, reading this stuff, what effect the density of the string material has. Clearly a steel string is denser than a nylon string. Now, would a titanium alloy string sound more like steel, or more like nylon? > i am just kidding. i am a newcomer to this ghroup and to theaory being an ear player of thirteen+ years. but hey -- seeing your heading made me pleased -- as i am working on a 'superlocrian' -- i am sure there already is one and i am patching itt together out of intuition, snatches of conversation from the local'big kids' and well thanks. string theory. gimme a rimshot huh? rimshot I guess at 14 notes to the octave instead of 7, it has to be a superduperlocrian. I usually mention scale ideas on tuning-math, but when something unsual or interesting turns up that I think might be of more general interest, I sometimes put it here. While Fokker blocks are easy to concoct, they're no longer easy or common if you want them to do what I did with this one, and I thought the result was both unsual *and* interesting.
From: Gene Ward Smith (2005-05-29) Subject: Re: A subminor/supermajor flavored scale --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote: Fooling around with Tonescape, I saw this works better in this form: ! breed14.scl a 49/48 and 81/80 Fokker block in breed plane 14 ! 21/20 49/45 7/6 49/40 9/7 4/3 7/5 3/2 14/9 49/30 12/7 147/80 343/180 2 It looks uglier but is all connected by strict 7-limit JI.
From: banaphshu (2005-05-31) Subject: Re: A subminor/supermajor flavored scale -I have a 14 tone scale that was included in L0u Harrison's Primer that is a good 7 limit 14 tone scale 1/1 21/20 9/8 7/6 5/4 21/16 4/3 7/5 3/2 63/40 27/16 7/4 15/8 63/32 -- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote: > --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> > wrote: > > Fooling around with Tonescape, I saw this works better in this form: > > ! breed14.scl > a 49/48 and 81/80 Fokker block in breed plane > 14 > ! > 21/20 > 49/45 > 7/6 > 49/40 > 9/7 > 4/3 > 7/5 > 3/2 > 14/9 > 49/30 > 12/7 > 147/80 > 343/180 > 2 > > It looks uglier but is all connected by strict 7-limit JI.