Full thread (10 messages)
From: Petr Pařízek (2005-11-23)
Subject: A new JI scale
Hi all.
Here I'm sending a new scale I made yesterday. It contains a part of the
harmonic series up to the 16th harmonic (i.e. from C upwards) and also a
part of the subharmonic series up to the 16th subharmonic (from B
downwards). The interesting thing about this is that I managed to "squeeze"
all this into just a 12-tone scale.
Petr
! harcb12.scl
!
Scale of 16 harmonics from C and 16 subharmonics from B
! November 2005 - Petr Parizek
12
!
15/14
9/8
15/13
5/4
15/11
11/8
3/2
13/8
5/3
7/4
15/8
2/1
From: Gene Ward Smith (2005-11-23)
Subject: Re: A new JI scale
--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Petr Paøízek wrote:
>
> Hi all.
> Here I'm sending a new scale I made yesterday. It contains a part of the
> harmonic series up to the 16th harmonic (i.e. from C upwards) and also a
> part of the subharmonic series up to the 16th subharmonic (from B
> downwards). The interesting thing about this is that I managed to
"squeeze"
> all this into just a 12-tone scale.
Not only that, but a scale epimorphic with the standard val, and
constant structure. If someone wants to retune 12-equal music in a
seriously warped way, this would be one thing to try.
From: George D. Secor (2005-11-23)
Subject: Re: A new JI scale
--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Petr Paøízek wrote:
>
> Hi all.
> Here I'm sending a new scale I made yesterday. It contains a part
of the
> harmonic series up to the 16th harmonic (i.e. from C upwards) and
also a
> part of the subharmonic series up to the 16th subharmonic (from B
> downwards). The interesting thing about this is that I managed
to "squeeze"
> all this into just a 12-tone scale.
> Petr
>
> ! harcb12.scl
> !
> Scale of 16 harmonics from C and 16 subharmonics from B
> ! November 2005 - Petr Parizek
> 12
> !
> 15/14
> 9/8
> 15/13
> 5/4
> 15/11
> 11/8
> 3/2
> 13/8
> 5/3
> 7/4
> 15/8
> 2/1
Very nice! -- but unfortunately not new. This is one of the two best
13-limit JI scales I came up with over 30 years ago:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/60761
And I suspect that I may not have been the first to find these.
--George
From: Haresh BAKSHI (2005-11-23)
Subject: Re: A new JI scale
Hi ALL, Similarly for the raga-s. Some very beautiful raga "comes" to
you, quite independently. But, later, you are told that the same raga
has been in existence already, having a different name.
The originality and creativity of the later recipient of the gift, of
course, enjoys the same status as that of the first one.
Regards,
Haresh.
--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "George D. Secor" <gdsecor@y...> wrote:
>
> Very nice! -- but unfortunately not new. This is one of the two best
> 13-limit JI scales I came up with over 30 years ago:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/60761
>
> And I suspect that I may not have been the first to find these.
>
> --George
From: Gene Ward Smith (2005-11-23)
Subject: Re: A new JI scale
--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "George D. Secor" <gdsecor@y...> wrote:
> Very nice! -- but unfortunately not new. This is one of the two best
> 13-limit JI scales I came up with over 30 years ago:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/60761
>
> And I suspect that I may not have been the first to find these.
The Scala archive didn't have it, however.
From: Petr Parízek (2005-11-23)
Subject: Re: A new JI scale
Hi George.
You wrote:
Very nice! -- but unfortunately not new. This is one of the two best
13-limit JI scales I came up with over 30 years ago:
Did you? And are there (somewhere) some recordings of music using this scale
then? If there are, I'd love to hear them. You certainly understand how keen
I am on music in these JI tunings, :)?
Petr
From: George D. Secor (2005-11-28)
Subject: Re: A new JI scale
--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "George D. Secor" <gdsecor@y...> wrote:
>
> > Very nice! -- but unfortunately not new. This is one of the two
best
> > 13-limit JI scales I came up with over 30 years ago:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/60761
> >
> > And I suspect that I may not have been the first to find these.
>
> The Scala archive didn't have it, however.
How did you determine that? In other words, how can one search for an
unnamed scale or tuning in the archive?
--George
From: Gene Ward Smith (2005-11-28)
Subject: Re: A new JI scale
--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "George D. Secor" <gdsecor@y...> wrote:
> > The Scala archive didn't have it, however.
>
> How did you determine that? In other words, how can one search for an
> unnamed scale or tuning in the archive?
Use the "compare scale" command.
From: George D. Secor (2005-11-28)
Subject: Re: A new JI scale
--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Petr Parízek wrote:
>
> Hi George.
> You wrote:
>
> Very nice! -- but unfortunately not new. This is one of the two
best
> 13-limit JI scales I came up with over 30 years ago:
>
> Did you? And are there (somewhere) some recordings of music using
this scale
> then? If there are, I'd love to hear them. You certainly understand
how keen
> I am on music in these JI tunings, :)?
> Petr
No, I wasn't particularly interested in subharmonics as an organizing
principle for tonality above the 5-limit, so I never used it for
anything.
It appears, therefore, that you may still have the opportunity to be
the very first to use this tuning in a composition (which I'd love to
hear).
You could also check with David B. Doty at the JI Network to see if
he knows of anyone who has used it.
--George
From: George D. Secor (2005-11-28)
Subject: Re: A new JI scale
--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "George D. Secor" <gdsecor@y...> wrote:
>
> > > The Scala archive didn't have it, however.
> >
> > How did you determine that? In other words, how can one search for
an
> > unnamed scale or tuning in the archive?
>
> Use the "compare scale" command.
Okay -- thanks!
-George