decad

inversion of decab

Properties

Notes10
Period1200.0 ¢
Just7-limit
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Thread4 scales
Tone Tone (¢) Step Step (¢)
15/14 119 15/14 119
25/21 302 10/9 182
5/4 386 21/20 84
4/3 498 16/15 112
10/7 617 15/14 119
3/2 702 21/20 84
5/3 884 10/9 182
25/14 1004 15/14 119
40/21 1116 16/15 112
2/1 1200 21/20 84

Similar scales

FileNotesRotationMax diff (¢)
xen15-gilson-generalized-just-3 10 3 0.0
mecaa 10 5 3.8
secad 10 0 9.6
xen18-erlich-srutal-10 10 1 21.1
secac 10 7 21.6
secab 10 2 21.6
jubilee10asym1 10 1 24.1
jubilee10sym1 10 1 24.1

Parent scales

FileNotesMax diff (¢)
meantune 16 7.8
xen05-secor-2 12 14.8
dwarf25marv 25 3.9
scott 19 9.1
xen05-walker-golden 21 7.7
indians 22 7.3
septenarius440Hzmk2 12 16.8
indianred 22 7.7
xen02-wilson-indic 22 7.7
xen18-erlich-meantone-19 19 10.0

Child scales

FileNotesMax diff (¢)
xen07-harrison-thoughts-7 5 5.8
xen10-wilson-purvi-02a-05 7 7.7
xen03-wilson-positive-05 5 7.7
xen10-wilson-purvi-10b-06 7 13.8
xen03-wilson-negative-05 5 13.8
Ethiopia_Mus_02_Bati_Zafan 5 15.0
CD15_10_Morocco 6 15.5
CD11_04_bayati_Iraq 6 17.1
xen18-erlich-dimipent-08 8 19.2
xen10-wilson-purvi-09b-05 7 19.6
Mailing list post
From: Gene W Smith (2002-07-31)
Subject: Four 10-note, 7-limit JI scales

If we take (10/9)^2 (15/14)^2 (16/15)^2 (21/20)^3 = 2 as scale steps, and
simplify the scale-finding problem by assuming 4/3 and 3/2 both belong to
the scale, we obtain four scales, the third and fourth of which are the
inverted forms of the first and second. A version of the major/minor
transformation, exchanging 10/9 with 16/15, which is equivalent to saying
2-->2, 3-->3, 5-->24/5, 7-->168/25, exchanges the first and second, as
well as the third and fourth. The first "decaa", and fourth, "decad", are
major versions, having two major tetrads and a minor tetrad, while
"decab" and "decac" have two minor and one major tetrad. In any system
where 50/49~1 the exchange transform sends tetrads to tetrads and can be
considered major/minor. In 22-et in particular, each scale becomes the
symmetrical decatonic. All of the scales have 23 intervals, 17 triads and
3 tetrads.

! decad.scl
! [15/14, 10/9, 21/20, 16/15, 15/14, 21/20, 10/9, 15/14, 16/15, 21/20]
inversion of decab
10
!
15/14
25/21
5/4
4/3
10/7
3/2
5/3
25/14
40/21
2/1

! decab.scl
! [21/20, 16/15, 15/14, 10/9, 21/20, 15/14, 16/15, 21/20, 10/9, 15/14]
(10/9) <==> (16/15) transform of decaa
10
!
21/20
28/25
6/5
4/3
7/5
3/2
8/5
42/25
28/15
2/1

! decac.scl
! [15/14, 16/15, 21/20, 10/9, 15/14, 21/20, 16/15, 15/14, 10/9, 21/20]
inversion of decaa
10
!
15/14
8/7
6/5
4/3
10/7
3/2
8/5
12/7
40/21
2/1

! decad.scl
! [15/14, 10/9, 21/20, 16/15, 15/14, 21/20, 10/9, 15/14, 16/15, 21/20]
inversion of decab
10
!
15/14
25/21
5/4
4/3
10/7
3/2
5/3
25/14
40/21
2/1
Full thread (2 messages)
From: Gene W Smith (2002-07-31)
Subject: Four 10-note, 7-limit JI scales

If we take (10/9)^2 (15/14)^2 (16/15)^2 (21/20)^3 = 2 as scale steps, and
simplify the scale-finding problem by assuming 4/3 and 3/2 both belong to
the scale, we obtain four scales, the third and fourth of which are the
inverted forms of the first and second. A version of the major/minor
transformation, exchanging 10/9 with 16/15, which is equivalent to saying
2-->2, 3-->3, 5-->24/5, 7-->168/25, exchanges the first and second, as
well as the third and fourth. The first "decaa", and fourth, "decad", are
major versions, having two major tetrads and a minor tetrad, while
"decab" and "decac" have two minor and one major tetrad. In any system
where 50/49~1 the exchange transform sends tetrads to tetrads and can be
considered major/minor. In 22-et in particular, each scale becomes the
symmetrical decatonic. All of the scales have 23 intervals, 17 triads and
3 tetrads.

! decad.scl
! [15/14, 10/9, 21/20, 16/15, 15/14, 21/20, 10/9, 15/14, 16/15, 21/20]
inversion of decab
10
!
15/14
25/21
5/4
4/3
10/7
3/2
5/3
25/14
40/21
2/1

! decab.scl
! [21/20, 16/15, 15/14, 10/9, 21/20, 15/14, 16/15, 21/20, 10/9, 15/14]
(10/9) <==> (16/15) transform of decaa
10
!
21/20
28/25
6/5
4/3
7/5
3/2
8/5
42/25
28/15
2/1

! decac.scl
! [15/14, 16/15, 21/20, 10/9, 15/14, 21/20, 16/15, 15/14, 10/9, 21/20]
inversion of decaa
10
!
15/14
8/7
6/5
4/3
10/7
3/2
8/5
12/7
40/21
2/1

! decad.scl
! [15/14, 10/9, 21/20, 16/15, 15/14, 21/20, 10/9, 15/14, 16/15, 21/20]
inversion of decab
10
!
15/14
25/21
5/4
4/3
10/7
3/2
5/3
25/14
40/21
2/1
From: Gene W Smith (2002-07-31)
Subject: Re: [tuning-math] Four 10-note, 7-limit JI scales

These scales also work well with the {225/224, 441/440} temperament,
whose mean square optimal values are essentially those of the 72-et. I
give a 72-et version of the first scale below (33 intervals 44 triads);
the third and fourth are modes of the first and second, so the second is
just a mode of the inversion of the first scale. Qm(3) is not knocked off
its perch, but these are a nice suppliment.

! mecaa.scl
! [5, 11, 7, 7, 5, 7, 11, 5, 7, 7]
{225/224, 441/440} tempering of decad, 72-et version
10
!
83.33333333
266.6666667
383.3333333
500.0000000
583.3333333
700.0000000
883.3333333
966.6666667
1083.333333
2/1

Raw file

! decad.scl
! [15/14, 10/9, 21/20, 16/15, 15/14, 21/20, 10/9, 15/14, 16/15, 21/20]
inversion of decab
10
!
15/14
25/21
5/4
4/3
10/7
3/2
5/3
25/14
40/21
2/1
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